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Secrets of Sandbox

Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:18 am

We all love to forge on it, but there are some secrets we should all know to build the best maps.


1. Starting weapons/scenery/and etc.

Don't get replaced to the CPU budget (the one we CAN'T see).

2. Spawning in yet-to-be-spawned scenery.

Say you have a spawn point, and later in the game, something spawns over that spawn point, blocking it off (just like black kn1ght's HDD map). You will NEVER spawn on that point after the first round, unless another player has always spawned on thet point in the round due to lag. This usually happens to the connection non-host.
Best way to avoid this is to maybe put spawns OVER the spawning objects, so at first you would fall maybe three feet, but after round one you would still be inside the map.


3. Glitched Objects.

The following objects can be spawned after you hit 0 budget, yet they still take away from your budget if they are spawned before this point, so if you can try adding them right at the end.

Single Wall
Double Wall
Collum, Small Blue
Collum, Small Red

These are all I know of right now, and I will add more as we find them (if we find any more).


4. What blocks the cript?

Block, Flat





Hope this helps everybody, as we find more secrets from forging on the map make sure to share them here. ::thumbs::
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Re: Secrets of Sandbox

Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:27 am

If you kill someone with a Plasma Pistol on Sandbox, then a horde of angry Rattlesnakes will rise from the crypt and give you the E-74 error.

Er... I mean, good job, this oughta help somebody out.
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Re: Secrets of Sandbox

Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:36 pm

Holy ::cens:: I accidently deleted the block that covers the crypt and it took me forever to figure out what goes in their! I found that once it is positioned correctly; you can grab it and drop it rapidly and it will speed-up the process!
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Re: Secrets of Sandbox

Sat Mar 28, 2009 6:42 am

More glitched items found, including Walls, Double Walls, and the colored collums.
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Re: Secrets of Sandbox

Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:43 am

No my map failed because I used the wrong spawns....
I think I used standard slayer spawns instead of VIP...
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Re: Secrets of Sandbox

Fri May 22, 2009 10:23 pm

Hey Forgers,

I was looking for some info, but I don't know if it exists...

I played the Sahara map on a New Member Friday a while back. It was awesome, but I heard that there was a "money glitch." Is this included in the endless walls and colored columns or no? Just wondering, as I am about to embark on a forging journey: remaking one of N64's Goldeneye 007's multiplayer maps, the temple.

Thanks for the help.
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Re: Secrets of Sandbox

Wed May 27, 2009 7:44 pm

Modern Apostle wrote:
I played the Sahara map on a New Member Friday a while back. It was awesome, but I heard that there was a "money glitch." Is this included in the endless walls and colored columns or no? Just wondering, as I am about to embark on a forging journey: remaking one of N64's Goldeneye 007's multiplayer maps, the temple.


I believe that you are referring to the "glitch" or "oversight" that allows you to place walls and colored columns after the budget has been reached, but not the hard limit. If you have used up all your forge moneyz, but have not reached the hard item limit, you can still place; Single Wall; Double Wall; Collum, Small Blue; Collum, Small Red.
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Re: Secrets of Sandbox

Wed May 27, 2009 7:55 pm

BRs, Bubble Shields, and i think Regens are included in this "oversight"
 
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Re: Secrets of Sandbox

Sun May 31, 2009 7:44 pm

Yeah, I've played around a bit and have noticed what this is all about. Definitely tricky though to place the walls and columns last, as they're so versatile. Thank you though, for clarifying.
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Re: Secrets of Sandbox

Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:49 pm

i still dont see this oversight everyone is talking about. if i hit zero budget i cant place ANYTHING
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Re: Secrets of Sandbox

Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:50 am

I have figured this out. On the DEFAULT sandbox, there are budget glitched items. These include:

single wall
small stone column
small blue column
small red column
blue light
red light
battle rifle
brute shot
needler
carbine
plasma grenade
bubble shield
grav lift
regenerator

So you can still place more of these items after you hit $0 budget IF there is already at least one on your map.

Shiska has already stated that budget glitched maps will never make it into matchmaking. What about maps that utilize these items, because the DEFAULT sandbox we play in matchmaking is budget glitched.
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